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  • Black Soulstone
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    Has been covered. Hopefully for real this time
    02:51, March 30, 2020

    Now this piece of info belongs to a hypotethical Episode 24 review and I want you to read it.

    We come back to Croix and she is NOT happy that the Grand Triskellion can't do anything for her. Croix realizes she is in deep trouble. I mean Croix has been placing all her concerns and worries inside a bubble so that she won't feel conflicted whenever she does these evil things to get what she wants. But now that she has the GT, that bubble bursts and all her guilt just drop onto her. She has given up her friendships and her reputation and has depleted all her kind's entire magic supply and has started World War III and she can't undo it all. So yeah, Witchkind is screwed. The ends does not justify the means.

    Chariot, meanwhile, looks at this, sadly. She's not angry at Croix and she's not even going to laugh at Croix's misery. Why is that? Because she saw that the Grand Triskellion doesn't work on anyone but Akko. She did not know that only Akko can wield the Grand Triskellion. Meaning, everything she did was worthless. She had one last opportunity to reconcile with Akko but she throw it away. She'll never know whether or not she could have gotten Akko back or she could have gotten Akko back but she chose the Grand Triskellion and Croix. How can you feel anything other than feeling like a failure?

    But the bad news doesn't end there as Woodward finally appears after so long. Croix tries to find out where the Grand Triskellion is but to her dismay, Woodward says that this puny, ugly stick is the Grand Triskellion. Croix just loses it and this is when we learn the truth. It turns out that Woodward has been ignoring Croix for Chariot. And Chariot did not know this. Also, why didn't Woodward be attentive for Croix considering she's all-powerful even in death that she could juggle between the two? The answer is that she's not all-powerful, she is just one woman much like a reminder to Witches that they are not a separate species, they are still human. 

    Now, we have been seeing the Witches' corrupt nature and incompetence throughout the series but the question is where did it all started? And how did magic started to decline? And why Woodward is all alone since she supposed to have the Nine Olde Witches as her friends? The answers solves all of these questions? When Chariot reveals about the Quest for the Seven Words, it sounds like it would be a fun and wondrous hero's journey but her later reactions showed like in Wagandea, that it isn't as satisfying as it was and that it only left some severe scars to her life. Chariot always wondered that if the Quest was such an honor, why did she continue to suffer? Now she know the truth and it shocked her to the very core.

    Looking at Woodward, she ignored Croix and she even can't say anything to her to calm her down. This is not because she's heartless, Woodward just doesn't know. She knows one and one thing only; the Grand Triskellion and it's importance. And that's when another revelation happens; Did Woodward ignored Croix for Chariot or did she ignore Croix for the Grand Triskellion? The answer is the latter. Chariot has been with Woodward all the time and the only lessons she got from the ancient witch are just the meaning of the words for the Grand Triskellion. She only did just that. She didn't give her extra lessons about magic nor did she ever vouch for Chariot when she got into trouble nor ever warn her about the dangers of Wagandea. Because Woodward is obssess for the GT. And that's when the scary truth comes in.

    When you are obssess like Croix, you tend to forsake all the important things in life like friends, reputation etc. Woodward has done this long before because getting the GT justifies all of them but like I said before, it doesn't. Woodward has failed in her Quest but she tries to find a way to get the GT even after she may have lost the right to get the Shiny Rod. She may have other Chosen Ones long before Chariot and Akko but they too failed. That kind of mentality can spread like a disease. And that mentality evolves into that ideology like the ideology that the current Witches are using. And this is where Holy Shit! applies. Woodward IS responsible for everything Chariot and Akko had to go through.

    Like Woodward, the traditionalist Witches valued magic to the point that they forgotten the needs of the people that once look up to them, forgetting ancient languages and various historical events. making advancements and even abandoning the magical creatures and the students. And that is why Woodward is no longer with the Nine Olde Witches; She basically alienated them herself. And that's why magic is in decline and why people no longer values magic? She and the Witches abandon them; Not the other way around. 

    Chariot is at loss for words. Woodward thinks that the GT will make things better but to Chariot, it won't. She has suffered the costs. And just now, the GT has robbed her of any chance to be with Akko. And now she gets a final lesson from Woodward? She was slowly adopting the ideologies that ruined her life. And I think Diana's words are now echoing through her mind. She did lost her way.

    But now, there is another matter for Chariot. If Woodward could make such huge mistakes, could Diana ever bring Akko back? Diana, the same one who was the biggest supporter of the old ideologies that destroyed all good about the Witch community and eventually, abandon her friends and teachers. Chariot doesn't know the full story and Akko probably kept quiet out of respect for Diana. It gets worse from here on out. Woodward chose magic over Croix and what did Chariot do; she as well chose magic over Akko. It was at that point that Chariot realizes in horror that she has placed Akko onto the path that turned Croix into a monster.

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    • As convoluted as it is, those are valid points. Yet Chariot still fares better due to Akko still forgive her thanks to Diana:

      Speaking about Nine Olde Witches, what's about Beatrix?

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    • But it's a possibility and one that migh be the reason for this entire conflict.

      She's somewhat learn the lessons of the past, given that she rescues Diana and Akko from her own family members.

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    • Do remember that the lesson to Chariot anyway is that there is no such thing as an original way for magic nor any perfect solutions to problems. The only way to solve problems is by being adaptable to the situations. Even Woodward lost her way which is why she never took into account taking some time off for Croix nor even vouch for Chariot. I also think deep down that she wants the Grand Triskellion.

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    • Also, it's great that Chariot did not win the fight against the Noir Rod. This emphasizes the point that there is no permanent solution to problems; One must be adaptable and must adapt every thing to help someone. Chariot has been stripped of her reputation, her magic and her own abilities so when Akko comes, she is humbled and decides that even if she has lost everything, she tries and will try to earn back Akko's respect and realize that magic cannot solve everything.

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    • Another thing, eventhough Chariot has accepted Croix back into her life, it does not equal forgetting and forgetting all the past crimes she inflicted onto her and Akko. Chariot chose to take her responsibilities for Akko first and let Croix go to prison other than she needs it but also keep safe distance from her and Akko.

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    • Maybe add this in Chariot's relationship. Despite having regained their friendship, Chariot allows Croix to serve her time for her crimes, wanting to distance her from Akko and the others.

      Also for Akko. What was once a childhood dream grew into an actual desire to help others.

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    • I'll think about it.

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    • Don't know if I brought this up but I don't think childhood attachment is the reason Chariot saves Croix. Episode 23 shows that Chariot has basically lost all compassion or care for Croix because she hates her so much for ruining her life. 

      My interpetation is in Episode 24 on how Woodward treated Croix. I'm not saying that Croix and Akko are similar but how different Woodward and Chariot handle their students. As you said, Chariot tries her very best to approach and work closely with Akko but Woodward just outright shunned Croix and it's shown that she wasn't exacly a good teacher to Chariot as well.

      I think that reaction Chariot showed when Woodward left is not that of dismay. Probably is but it's also a mix of disgust, if she sees Woodward treat Akko poorly, I'm pretty sure Chariot would have beat Woodward up in retaliation. I think why Chariot forsake the Quest and the Words is because it's not going to save the world and her friends, she has to use her believing heart to do that. She has to set the right example.

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    • This is what I wrote for Finnelan's relationship with Akko.

      By the time of Faeries incident, Finnelan and Akko develop somewhat an antagonistic relationship towards each other. However despite what happened between them, it's implied Akko still sees Finnelan as an authority figure even after the latter has being discredited by Croix. Finnelan, realizing Akko still respects her, tries to dissuade her student from making contact with Croix.

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    • I'll go check it out and see whether it needs some improvement.

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    • I think you can edit Croix's personality.

      - She has come to a belief that magic is merely just a tool that can be bend to anyone's will hence the development of her sheer arrogance in deeming herself just as capable in wielding the Grand Triskellion as the other chosen wieldders.

      - While she seemingly has no regrets over doing a number of evil acts. This is later proven false in "The Road to Arcturus" when she is unable to fully use the power of the Grand Triskellion, Croix entered into a series of shame, horror and guilt, realizing that she has foolishly gave up her career and burned down all her relationships just satisfy her ego.



      As for Finnelan with Croix. Here's this: It's implied that Finnelan sees Croix as the perfect student but after Croix discredited her in public, Finnelan has nothing but utmost disappointment towards her. 

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    • As plausible as it seems, I find such statements too questionable and exaggerated that I can't add either.

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    • Still, you gotta admit the moment she realizes she can't undo her actions with the GT, makes you feel she realize she regreated throwing away her entire life like that.

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    • I need to say this. I think Chariot does see Diana as a candidate to be Akko's mentor but never a candidate for the Shiny Rod.

      Also given that Ursula has spent time and bond with Akko that Ursula would not regard Diana as a true fan. Even if peer pressure make her not reveal love for Chariot but the fact she still chooses to slander her and let everyone else follow that example didn't improve a lot in her eyes.

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    • I'm sorry Black but the idea that Woodward intentionally left Chariot and Croix to let Akko steps in is too much to swallow. Her last scenes just confuses me. She could have a chance to apologize to Croix but she didn't. I think deep down she did abandon them.

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    • You mean she didn't foresee Akko unlocking the Final Word at all<? We can never 100% sure, yet it's not as shallow as you think. Probably you're either overlooked or too dismissive to why she silently guided the witches by showing them the missile to everyone in their smartphones after Akko unlocks the final word, let alone why she looks at Chariot and Croix with smile after they succeeded in their part in aiding Akko and Diana saving the world.

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    • Are you saying you SUPPORT her threatening the world with a missile? Are you saying that you ALLOW Woodward to abandon Chariot and Croix? Here's my interpretation: She knows absolutely Zero what she is doing. She left because she couldn't stand the pressure. She saw the world is in danger and decides to make a stand. She smiles because she's at least happy they are at least redeem.

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    • No, she wanted them to stop the missile. None of us can fully understand what her motives was, let alone whether she didn't know 100% what she's actually doing. From the way I see it, she had rather benevolent intentions despire her questionable ways. She might planned the whole thing all along except the missile part, which she sees as the opportunity to give Akko and co. idea to spread the Grand Triskellion.

      Even if you have valid points, your statements is skewed by how much you resented Woodward just like with Chariot.

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    • So you mean she planned: to let all the Witches hate on Chariot, Witches bully Akko, allow Croix to nearly kill people? Is that what you're saying?

      I may have resentment but it is also serious concern just how much the characters had to go through because of these peoples' antics. I think it's you who don't understand that how many times these girls, including Akko nearly suffered death.

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    • Honestly I don't even fully understand what she actually planned. What Akko gone through is indeed awful, yet at the same time that was made her stronger.

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    • We have different opinion about Woodward and her motives, but it becomes too apparent you think about the matter too much and it all let to this kind of pointless misunderstanding. I might be wrong, but I grew tired by your different (and sometimes unnecessarily demanding) statements over this issue.

      And I had enough of this long covered this topic for the same reasons.

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    • Fine, can we at least agree that "Woodward is not a good teacher."

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    • And flawed one. Am I made myself clear?

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    • Good.

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